LX 5.0 Mustang vs SC400!!!!

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jibbby

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I got edged out by a true sleeper....Check this, I was at a red light last night and what was probably an 1984 LX mustang 5.0 was rumbling next to me...He looked over at me and pointed forward..From the looks of the car it looked to be ugly and stock but the exhaust noise did not seem to be stock...I armed the nos and we gave it a go at the green...We both take off tires are spinning some and I pulled out in front by half a cars length in first gear and was holding him off in second gear too then third hit and he slowely over took me while I was riding the juice..WOW....

I then noticed 3" exhaust pipes out the back end of the 5.0 mustang...Still are these older 5.0 LX mustangs with exhaust mods really that fast? Man I was impressed, didn't see that coming...I pulled up next to him at the next stop and gave him the thumbs up...

I lost hands down to a true sleeper....End of story
 

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I drove one of those oldie '84 or '85 Mustang 5.0 before and honestly, it didn't impress me that much. It wasn't that fast as I expected. Not long ago, I even raced my SC with a '94 - '97 GT Mustang, the guy won me, but not by much. Therefore, I don't think that '84 Mustang can run in the 12 sec or even the low 13 sec. The cams and head won't make it down to 13 sec. It had to be something else under that hood. Perhaps it's a supercharger with a stock exhaust. It requires at least 400 hp for that weight of a Mustang to run in the 13 sec. The owner might still have some mods going on before he'll replace the tires and the exhaust system...etc. There're a lot of hi performance parts for those Mustang.
 

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Well Steve, my best friend had an 85 Mustang 5.0 CHP addition when I was growing up and it was pretty fast...but like I said above this one I raced was faster then stock.. Bigger tail pipes, louder sounds, and very quick in all gears...I got worked over....Those older LX Mustang cars are fairly light in weight to begin with, a few mods on the 5.0L motors and I sure the car gets moving fairly well...

Lex should know he owns a boosted Cobra....That might be a 4.6L boosted motor...
 

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If it aint under FI, all stock'ish mustangs are *relatively* slow. The problem you face, is that it takes nothing in money to make them fast. And everyone under the sun can do that! Honestly. I'd rather buy, drive & mod a Maxima than a Mustang now that there are some cheap, mid 90's 3.0L v6 N/A Maxima's with stock A/T's running high 12s. And still daily driven too. And get better economy LoL!

1964 Ford Mustang (289ci V8 w/4spd) 7.5 15.7
1966 Ford Mustang (289ci V8 Auto) 10.9 17.9
1967 Ford Mustang (390ci V8 w/4spd) 7.4 15.6
1971 Ford Mustang (351ci V8 w/4spd) 5.8 13.8
1973 Ford Mustang 351ci 8.9 16.3
1974 Ford Mustang II 4sp 14.2 18.8
1974 Ford Mustang II Auto 15.6 19.4
1975 Ford Mustang II (302ci V8 w/3spd) 9.6 17.5
1977 Ford Mustang II 302ci 11.3 17.7
1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351 5.8 13.8
2001 Ford Mustang Bullitt GT 5.6 14.1 (MT 01)
1980 Ford Mustang (255ci) 11.8 18.5
1980 Ford Mustang Cobra (225ci) 11.3 18.4
1981 Ford Mustang M81 McLaren (2.3L Turbo) 9.7 17.3
1982 Ford Mustang GT 8.0 N/A
1984 Ford Mustang SVO 7.9 15.8
1985 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.9 (C&D, Jan. 85)
1987 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.4 (Automobile, April 87)
1988 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 15.0 (MT Jan '88)
1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0l Manual 6.2 14.8 (MT Jan '89)
1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.4 14.9
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6
1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.2 14.8
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.9 14.5
1993 Ford Mustang GT (auto) 8.0 16.1
1994 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9 (C&D Dec '93)
1995 Ford Mustang 3.8 9.9 17.3
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R 5.2 13.8
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
1999 Ford Mustang Convertible V6 8.6 16.5
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2005 Ford Mustang GT V-6 6.9 15.3 (C&D Feb 05)
2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 5.1 13.5 (MT Jan 05)
2005 Ford Mustang GT Convertible 5.2 13.8 (MT Apr 05)
2001 Ford Mustang Roush Stage 3 4.3 12.9
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 5.7 13.9
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (5 Speed) 4.7 13.2 (MT Feb 05)
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (Auto) 5.6 13.88 (MT Apr 04)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-H 5.3 13.9 (C&D Nov '06)
 

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Toys, Wow you must have been bored...Great long Mustang stat sheet...

Yeah, at stock these cars aren't much better then the Sc/Soarers.. Although the 1985 Mustang 5.0L LX that I raced was not stock...It was damn fast in all gears. Those cars are light in weight to begin with, a decent power base engine with the 5 liter V8, and with a few additional mods here and there they start to get fast real quick...

I remember an old buddy of mine had purchased a 1987 Mustang 5.0L CHP (California Highway Patrol) car at a police auction and that 5.0 had some muscle..It had the basic mods, and could keep up with the 90's Vette's easily.. The X-police cars in the 80's were suped up abit.....Needless to say at 80,000 miles my friends Mustang fell apart literally, he had to re-weld the whole back end of the car back on.. The whole rear end just ripped off from roasting the car time after time.....I guess that's Ford engineering for you, you got to love it...

Toy's aren't the 90's Maxima's front wheel drive garbage?
 

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Hah! ANd you have to remember how the CHP treat those things! They have a contract with which ever automaker so that they are always fixed when the break no matter what. So they REALLY do not care about those cars at all! They are just used to their limits. I would still like to have one of those CHP 5.0's though! He should have kept it going strong.

Mustangs are so easy to work on and you can get parts over the counter so fast that you can put one together in a few days. They are only good for running around showing people how fast your old piece of crap is. Lexus wins in my book. 5.0's are a waste of money. When I think 5.0 I have to laugh and think about Vanilla Ice. The Lexus will still pull chicks. :eek:uttahere:
 

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Classic post, had me laughing...Ice Ice baby.....Yeah, those older mustangs are crap today, but back in the day everyone wanted one...Modified they can still move today, and break down too...My buddy had to sell the CHP Mustang right after he welded back the rear differential and axle housing back onto the frame....That car motored but always scared the crap out me, the back end would always break loose around cornering, never knew if we were going to rap around a pole or something, just never felt stable in that ride...However it was a fun five speed to drive..I had borrowed that heap a few times and just roasted the s*** out of it...

Come to think of it I even got my only exihibition of speeding ticket in that car when I was 20 years old and was put on probation for two years...Man that sucked, the judge showed me no love.....
 

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Yeah, but how do they hold up over time? Let's say you get the early 90's version with over 100,000 miles on it, all original.....How is that baby going to motor? I would be a little nervous with those two turbo's, what do you guys think? Are they solid sports cars even with high miles? Usually powerful cars that are built and manufactured with over 300hp tend to get worked pretty good over time.. Simply put too much power and stress on the car takes it's toll over a period of 10-15 years I would think.....

Why do you think the less powerful Toyota's and the 200hp lexus SC's last so long? No juice, no stress......
 

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I drove one of those oldie '84 or '85 Mustang 5.0 before and honestly, it didn't impress me that much. It wasn't that fast as I expected. Not long ago, I even raced my SC with a '94 - '97 GT Mustang, the guy won me, but not by much. Therefore, I don't think that '84 Mustang can run in the 12 sec or even the low 13 sec. The cams and head won't make it down to 13 sec. It had to be something else under that hood. Perhaps it's a supercharger with a stock exhaust. It requires at least 400 hp for that weight of a Mustang to run in the 13 sec. The owner might still have some mods going on before he'll replace the tires and the exhaust system...etc. There're a lot of hi performance parts for those Mustang.

Not so fast Steve...

My 87 Thunderbird Turbocoupe (bought new) was very reliable. At 210,000 miles I pulled the 2.3 turbo engine (best of 14.59 @93mph, modified) and installed a 5.0 HO from a 1989 Mustang. Ported my own heads and intake, ran JBA 1.5" shorty headers, underdrive pulleys (with harmonic balancer) and ran a best of 13.73 on a 1.96 60ft on 255/60-16s street radials. Dyno'd 249rwhp and 314rwtq. This TBird was a good 200lbs heavier than a Mustang. With decent valve springs and sticky tires it would have gone low 13s.
 

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Yeah the old 5.0 liter mustang performs decently out of the box but responds very well to basic bolt ons and can be made extemely fast for cheap.
 

jibbby

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JBrady don't the 80's Ford Thunderbirds come stock with the 6 banger motors with a supercharger on top?... I may be thinking of an slightly newer model then the one that you had.. I owned one for a very short time and was not impressed even with the stock charger...Slow is what comes to mind from my memories of that heap...
 

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some of those old T-birds come optional with 5.0 supercharged. Believe it or not they use M112 on that 5.0 but quite the senior citizen wagon!! Imagine fully built with 20psi.
 

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I just looked at a 1967 Mustang GT500 classic for sale today...It looks just like the Mustang Elenor in movie "Gone in sixty seconds".... Not quiet that nice but still an eye catcher and very clean and built...This guy modified it too with a swapped in 351ci engine, headers, cams, F.I., etc.. It had some muscle and quite the price tag to go along with it..$22,000... I had to pass, but that is the first mustang I really really liked and wanted to own... The owner bought it for $1200 and restored it... The guy lives a block away from me, I may try to take a picture of it and post on this thread...It is that nice..
 


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