Single Turbo SC400 or 2JZ??

[Lextreme II]

An average swap is about $8,000-$12,000. I have seen about half dozen of 2JZ swap in person. With 10,000 you can make your 1uzfe very fast. Complete build motor with a turbo system along with fuel management and still have some money left over. Remember after $10,000 you only get 320 bhp from the stock 2JZ.

 

[drumminforev]

I have never heard some BS like that before. Who said $10,000 for a 2jzgte is gonna only make 320hp? You can buy a 2jzgte on ebay for 2500 shipped, any day of the week.

You can buy a 2jzGE for 500 at any salvage yard, **** i picked one up for 150 yesterday... slap a turbo kit on it for 1000 more, get a thicket hg and you are now a 2jzget.

I see no way possible to spent any more than 3000 doing any version of a stock 2jz swap.

 

[Death By Bass]

I have never heard some BS like that before. Who said $10,000 for a 2jzgte is gonna only make 320hp? You can buy a 2jzgte on ebay for 2500 shipped, any day of the week.

You can buy a 2jzGE for 500 at any salvage yard, **** i picked one up for 150 yesterday... slap a turbo kit on it for 1000 more, get a thicket hg and you are now a 2jzget.

I see no way possible to spent any more than 3000 doing any version of a stock 2jz swap.

it will cost that much if you pay someone to do it.

but then, if you're going to pay someone to do an engine swap, then I assume you'd be paying to have the engine rebuilt, and the custom turbo setup done on the 1UZ, 8000-12000? I think not, more like $16000-$24000 for all the labour involved!

if you're doing it yourself, then yeah, maybe $8000-$12000. but then, doing a 2JZGTE swap (yourself), will cost you half that, leaving $4000 - $6000 for mods, bringing it in at the same cost as the 1UZ turbo setup, but more power, and a stronger engine anyway.

 

[drumminforev]

I am new to the 1uzfe. Whats the CR, and if it was lowered to 8.5:1 what whp could it reliable make daily.

What are the weak points on this motor

 

[Death By Bass]

I am new to the 1uzfe. Whats the CR, and if it was lowered to 8.5:1 what whp could it reliable make daily.

What are the weak points on this motor

compression ratio is 10:1

I dont think the engine has any major weak points, just bits that werent designed as well as they could have been, but not meaning that they will break.

I think realistically, this engine could do 300-350hp without opening it up, but I'm sure someone will jump on in and correct me :argue:

 

[drumminforev]

I should be more specific. With a single turbo on 8.5;1 what could i expect reliably. Is it the HG that gives the low compression, or is it mainly from pistons.

 

[JustenGT8]

On 10:1 compression i make over 500rwhp on stock internals...gives you some idea that it's bloody strong eh and it ain't no dyno queen, although admittedly i have only circuit raced and dragged at 430rwhp to date.

Would never decompress to 8.5.....9.5 forgies with rods and if the block holds together i could easily make 1000+hp all day.

Top end of the JZ is a better bit of gear for sure but don't underestimate the UZ for making good easy hp

 

[stevechumo]

I have never heard some BS like that before. Who said $10,000 for a 2jzgte is gonna only make 320hp? You can buy a 2jzgte on ebay for 2500 shipped, any day of the week.

$10,000 is for swapping the stock 2JZGTE without tuning. That's why it only makes 320 bhp. It'll cost more for parts and tuning to make more hp.

You can buy a 2jzGE for 500 at any salvage yard, **** i picked one up for 150 yesterday... slap a turbo kit on it for 1000 more, get a thicket hg and you are now a 2jzget.

If you're talking about doing yourself, then that's totally different from paying someone else to do it. Also, a $1000 turbo kit is only for mix and match with some rusted pipes. I'm currently building a very economical turbo system with low boost for my SC400 and it's already costing me $1,500, not including other costs to make the engine bay more roomier. My turbo is used and most of the other functional parts are from China.

I see no way possible to spent any more than 3000 doing any version of a stock 2jz swap.

Normally, reality cost will be more than an estimate cost.

 

[drumminforev]

What are you smokin?
2jzge turbo ebay manifold, 200 shipped.
all the other random turbo parts - 400
turbo 500-1500
ic - 200
tuning - 400
motor - 600
2300-3300 right there.

1000 misc to play with

3300-4300 and its done

 

[Lextreme II]

If I give you $4,000. Can you do the swap for me? In general when someone mention 2JZ swap, they really meant 2JZGTE (Twin Turbo) The 2JZGE is the non-turbo/NA version and they are very cheap. From the prospective of this forum. Most people don't really want 2JZGE swap. Its like going backward. The easiest way is to sell your SC400 and get a SC300 and turbo that car.

 

[Toysrme]

^^^ Would like to address the manifold question. Yeah $200 for an SSA / OBX manifold on ebay that will crack in two months. LoL!
On the other hand I know another manifold builder online that sold a custom 6-1 2jz-ge manifold (6-1 colelctors are rare because above 4-1 collectors, the volume is too large & the velocity tanks too much). He got $650-700 for it.

You can turbo anything as cheaply as imagineable. *If* you have the knowledge & can do the work yourself. Very few people can do that. It takes any combination of money, knowledge & time to play with an NA-T, or NA-S/C engine.

 

[drumminforev]

If you read the review on sf about the ebay manifolds, you will learn that it is in fact and okay manifold. Sure, it would def help to retouch up the welds and maybe even add a brace on it, but for 200 its a great platform to start with, and much cheaper than 700-1000 custom made.

I do see that it would be a 'down step' but really it wouldnt be...because theres really no reason to spend an extra 1500 on a motor that is basically the exact same thing just because its not a 'down grade'.

 

[stevechumo]

What are you smokin?
2jzge turbo ebay manifold, 200 shipped.
all the other random turbo parts - 400
turbo 500-1500
ic - 200
tuning - 400
motor - 600
2300-3300 right there.

1000 misc to play with

3300-4300 and its done

I thought you mentioned $1000 for a turbo kit before. And now you add all the costs up to $1700 with a $500 turbo, or $2700 with a $1500 turbo. Now it sounds more reasonable.