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Cribbj, of all people you yourself should know that the talk of the V160 strength is not hype, it's fact. Many guys, some local, launch their V160 equipped Supra on 30+ pounds of boost, and have torn out many a driveshaft before that box gives way. THe box was meant for a Toyota, so it's natural that it stays in a Toyota.cribbj said:Eric, with due respect, money doesn't grow on trees everywhere else like it does at SF. You may have noticed this board's membership doesn't throw thousands of dollars around just because a fast talking salesman says something will work, but doesn't have a running car to prove it. I don't call that p*ssing ourselves at all; I call that caution and discretion.
For everyone's benefit, Getrag's rating on their type 233 transmission, (better known as the Toyota V160) is 490 Nm, which is 361 lb-ft of torque.
Tremec's rating on their TKO600 is 600 lb-ft.
Regardless of the hype and opinions about which one is stronger, these are the manufacturers' ratings. You decide which is better for your own application.
HP means very little when talking about transmissions and clutches. Torque is what determines the size/strength of these components.
I know which box works well on boosted 3.0 liter motors that don't make huge amounts of torque off the line, and I know which one I'd want behind a driveshaft snapping big block in a 2 ton vehicle.
John
There's no salesmanship involved, I actually own and drive one. My motor makes well over 1000HP in it's daily driven configuration, and I have shifts at 8700rpm. I also have 183,000 miles on my original V160. Where the TKO600 that can say that?
It doesn't take thousands of dollars wasted, or thrown around, but to do it right, it does take a load of cash. Surprisingly much. Ask me how I know.
I'd say caution as discretion is fair, however, that's only if it's across the board. So far it's not. Do I care? Not really... But when there's an elephant in the room, I don't ignore it, either.
Eric