What will you do with $11,000

[Lextreme II]

This is how much it cost to do a 2JZGTE Swap. This is the price few of my friends paid. If you have $11,000 what would you do with your V8?

 

[UZZ30-Québec]

M112

400rwhp

Edit :

Or I'd place it until an LS460 Crashes, buy the front clip and swap it in my SC :veryhappy

 

[Zuffen]

$11,000 US would build a very tough 1UZ in Australia.

You could have:
Ross pistons $1,000.00
Kelford cams $2,000.00
Argo rods $1,300.00
Ported heads $1,200.00
Cometic gaskets $250.00
ARP Fasteners $600.00
Gasket kit $500.00
Blueprint/balance $1,000.00
Assembly $2,500.00
Richwood Opcon supercharger and accessories $7,000.00 (this is a guess as I don't know the exact price)
Injectors (8 x 550cc) $1,000.00

I would expect that mix of parts to push out 650-700FWHP (These are essentially the components going into my engine)

That totalled $18,350.00 or US$13,200.00

If you went the turbo route you would get under the $11,000 limit and push out 700+FWHP
ECU $3,000.00 (Autronic or Motec)

 

[jibbby]

LS1 engine and matching tranny swap in my SC400..........WIth any money left over would then go into engine mods....

400whp N/A......that is just for starters.....

 

[V8TOY]

i would go for exactly like zuffen.

 

[Lextreme II]

For $11,000 USD I would do this:

You could have:
Ross pistons $750.00 (Group Buy)
Modify Stock cams $400.00
Lextreme Lightening Rods (H-Beam) $900.00
Ported and assemble heads $500.00
Cometic gaskets $180.00
ARP head studs $299.00
Gasket kit $350.00
Bore, Hone and Balanced $1,000 (self assemble)
Two T3/4 turbos with internal WG $700 (ebay)
Turbo Oil system $200
BOV $150
FMIC $ 450
Pipes and clamps $250
Custom Turbo headers $500
550 cc injectors $400
Walboro Fuel pump $130
Autronic SM2 $1500
Standalone installation $1000
Engine Installation $1,400
Misc $300

Total is $11,359.00

Got to add another $1,000 for tuning. So we are little over budget but we are very confident with this setup. So the final total to make it work is $12,359. Not bad if we are looking at the potential of 25 to 30 psi do to the 4.0 liters. $11,000 from the 2JZ swap is only for the stock hp (320 bhp). You will need more money to run higher boost and tuning. If you play your cards right along with some creativity. Once again, I will be doing some of the work and I save some money on it. The $11,000 will be well spent.

 

[jibbby]

Did you know you can invest that $11,000 into a true classic car rust bucket, restore it and sell it for $25,000. Turn that $11,000 into double when it is all said and done...

Did you know that you can invest that in aggressive but stable mutual fund and maybe gain %15 returns in one year... In 5 or 6 years it doubles with compoundng interest...

Did you know you can invest that money as a down payment in a real estate fixer upper in distress, fix it up, paint it, throw on some nice landscaping and a new front door and sell it. Should not only double your money but tripple or more....

If your in a hurry and like to take chances - Did you know if you go to Las Vegas and lay the $11,000 down on the rulette table you will have a %48 percent chance of doubling your money and a %52 chance of losing it all...

Etc...Etc....

Just a little food for thought........

 

[JamesN]

:biggrin: I did my 2jz swap with my 11k:veryhappy . Since, I've done that now. My next 11K will be on the V8 1uz. I have plans for it already. Now I just need to save up. :biggrin:

 

[JamesN]

The reason I did the swap is because of 2 reason.

1) I have an SC400 and Ls400. That is 2 V8 1uz already, not to mention my family G470 thats another 2uz. So 3 V8 in the family, gas bills is nuts:biggrin: .

2) I just like the 2jz strong aftermarket support.

But now that is done. I'm on to the next project. You know what that is right David? :wink:

 

[bango]

What gearbox did you use JamesN ?
And what gearbox is everyone else going to use with the $11000?

 

[JamesN]

For my swap I'm using the supra auto gear box with Lextreme upgrade TC.

For my 1uz project the gear box I'm still undecided. I have to ask Lextreme opinion on that.

 

[turboandrew]

1UZ in Supra:

1998 1UZFE $1600
SC400 parts motor (mounts, oil pan) $250
Custom pistons $1000
Pauter rods $1400
Modify stock intake manifold (keep runners, new plenum) for supercharger $500
Wipple charger $2300
V160 adapter $380
Modify supra flywheel myself $200
Adapter SC400 harness to AEM $100
Misc fuel fittings and adjustable FPR $300
SS304 pipes for headers (headers made myself) $300
SS304 pipes for down-pipe $100
Dyno time $300
V160 (already have) $0
kevlar clutch (already have) $0
heavy duty pressure plate (already have) $0
AEM EMS (already have) $0
dual walbro pumps and lines (already have) $0

$8730 total

I sold my old engine (2JZGTE, hks twins, greddy IC) for $9600...

Looking for 600 rwhp & no lag

 

[jibbby]

I concure turboandrew, really love that list of yours....Especially the wipple charger choice..... Curious, do you really think it is possible to get 600rwhp off that setup? I guess those wipple chargers can really move some air......WOW...

James, didn't know you were planning on a V8 build too...Which car of yours would be faster? I like it. and would love to see it happen... Basically if my numbers are correct you get 250whp for $11,000...Horsepower doesn't come cheap these days that's for sure......

 

[JamesN]

James, didn't know you were planning on a V8 build too...Which car of yours would be faster? I like it. and would love to see it happen... Basically if my numbers are correct you get 250whp for $11,000...Horsepower doesn't come cheap these days that's for sure......

yeah, Hp is very expensive to play with. I'm hoping to make some good Hp out if the Ls 1uz. I don't want it to be that fast since its for my wife and I dont want her to burn me :biggrin:. But it have to be faster than what it is now because tha car is slow. Even she complain to me about it, so I gotta called up Master Lextreme to help me on the project once I got the finance ready. :approve:

 

[turboandrew]

Jibby, whipple has a supercharger (used to go by p/n 2300, something else now) that will flow enough for about 800 flywheel hp ideally. This is very similar to what Kenne Bell uses for the Mustang Cobra with the "blowzilla", which make 600 rwhp easily. I have high confidence the supercharger will be good enough to do the job, just not quite sure what level of boost will be required to do it. With a stock 300 hp, adding high flow headers, a highly tuned fuel map and ignition, and about 18 psi of boost should hopefully do it.

 

[Lextreme II]

Andrew,

Do you think the stock crank pulley (5.0") would be big enough to make the boost you want? I think an after market pulley (larger) might require.

 

[jibbby]

Jibby, whipple has a supercharger (used to go by p/n 2300, something else now) that will flow enough for about 800 flywheel hp ideally. This is very similar to what Kenne Bell uses for the Mustang Cobra with the "blowzilla", which make 600 rwhp easily. I have high confidence the supercharger will be good enough to do the job, just not quite sure what level of boost will be required to do it. With a stock 300 hp, adding high flow headers, a highly tuned fuel map and ignition, and about 18 psi of boost should hopefully do it.

Turbs - The biggest question will that same whipple fit under the hood of a SC or LS Lexus? I would love to have that sitting under my hood....Paxton has a few monster chargers too....

 

[stevechumo]

Since James is my buddy and I like his swap, but I have a slightly different opinion. Since James's Supra swap is a V6 with an auto tranny, I would sell my current SC400 for around $8,000 (after taking all modified stuffs off and leave it to stock) and with another $11,000 of James's allowance totalling $19,000, I'd go this route. And I still have a V6 with some respectable power. I'm positive I can make around 600 rwhp reliably with my setup.

1. I'll buy a good SC300 with a manual tranny for $6,000 (SC300 is cheaper).
2. Throw in a good complete custom turbo kit for $2,500 (I build it myself)
3. Add a piggy back ECU for $700, 6 larger injectors for $350, and a fuel pump for $150, totalling $1,200.
4. A new clutch/flywheel for $1,000.
5. 6 Forged pistons/rods/rings for around $1,500.
6. Engine balance for $1,000.
7. Ignition system for $500.
8. 2 gauges for $300.
9. Tuning for $800.

The total would be: $ $14,800. The above includes my labor. For the remaining of $4,200, I can use it on a LSD for maybe $800 and a Supra brake swap for $1,000. I can still have $2,400 in a pocket for something else. Maybe a nice body kit?

 

[turboandrew]

David, I am not sure about the pulley. I really hope I don't have to go to a different crank pulley.

Actually, looks like whipple has a 2.75" charger pully, but "South Florida Pulley Headquarters" has a 2.5" one. With 2.5" and 5" crank, that's a 2x rotaional difference on the charger, vs engine rpm. Each revolution of the charger pumps 2.3L of air. For every two revolutions of the engine (720 degrees, one complete cycle) the engine normally displaces 4.0L, but the charger displaces 2.3*2*2 = 9.2 Liters, so in a perfect world, I could get 19.11 psi. In reality, the engine does not have 100% VE, so the boost will probably be higher. I'd probably start with a bigger charger pulley, like 2.75 or 3" to keep the boost down while tuning.

OK, sorry for getting off topic.

 

[Lextreme II]

Hello Andrew,

I did some calculation based on the new (renamed from 2300 i think (denote as 2300 cc) W140ax (denote as 140 cubic). Here is what i found out. At 2.5" supercharger pulley my calculation came out to be around 18.07 psi after a deduction of .95091 psi for overloop lost. Therefore before the overloop lost we got a very similar psi (19.02) With 2.5" crank pulley (produce 18.07 psi net) will generate at around 407 rwhp. Once again its estimated based on numbers from M90 and M112 on the 1uzfe. I factor out the effeciency of the whipple already. What do u think of the number. At 2" crank pulley, you will generate 460.9 rwhp. I have the spread sheet if you would like to see it. Once again, its a ballpark figure. Please don't stone me for it. Here is the file about this Boost Level and pulley size